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    Dystopia discussed

    Post by dleet on Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:28 pm

    What happens when society's ills are chronic? Terminal?  
    What happens to a society when thinking is eviscerated and is disdained in favor of raw emotion? [1] What happens when political discourse functions as a bunker rather than a bridge? What happens when the spheres of morality and spirituality give way to the naked instrumentalism of a savage market rationality? What happens when time becomes a burden for most people and surviving becomes more crucial than trying to lead a life with dignity? What happens when domestic terrorism, disposability, and social death become the new signposts and defining features of a society? What happens to a social order ruled by an “economics of contempt” that blames the poor for their condition and wallows in a culture of shaming?[2] What happens when loneliness and isolation become the preferred modes of sociality? What happens to a polity when it retreats into private silos and is no longer able to connect personal suffering with larger social issues? What happens to thinking when a society is addicted to speed and over-stimulation? What happens to a country when the presiding principles of a society are violence and ignorance? What happens is that democracy withers not just as an ideal but also as a reality, and individual and social agency become weaponized as part of the larger spectacle and matrix of violence?[3]
    Social death? Like obey or die? "He didn't follow orders" 'He was deaf' 'He was disabled' or he was everything accept armed and dangerous, but the cops got to go home alive and those killed will now be in a better place, right? A very social death indeed.
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    Re: Dystopia discussed

    Post by Ren's View on Mon Oct 03, 2016 4:46 pm


    Ah, those French genes cultured in Canada.  Good ol' Henry...  He's on a roll with this one:

    Henry Giroux wrote:
    It gets worse. Manufactured ignorance aided by the voracious seductions of commodified corporate-driven disimagination machine that promotes a culture of empty pleasures through and endless regime of consuming and discarding. American society is now dominated by a pervasive commodified landscape of disimagination machines that extends from Hollywood movies and video games to mainstream television, magazines, news, and the social media. These mind-numbing desiring machines which thrive on speed and sensation function mostly as workstations of ignorance to create a fog of distractions that promote forms of social amnesia that erase from memory and public discourse the structural, systemic and social forces that reinforce what can be called organized powerlessness and massive human suffering.

    That's on the border of critique and poetry.  Fun with language.
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    Re: Dystopia discussed

    Post by dleet on Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:42 pm

    I have always blamed Sandra Day for W v Gore because she was the 4th and final vote to grant the case standing so as to bring it forward to the court for a hearing. Had she not, the SCOFL had already ruled in favor of a recount which was underway. Sandy watched as her pick let the country be attacked and then he botched the response, and Katrina, and AIG's 2007 story times a 100. She has an opinion (duh, jurists should, don't you think?)  https://www.laprogressive.com/oconnor-regrets-bush-v-gore/ No do-overs in the court for some opinions or decisions or mistakes or tragedies or...

    She saw how Harris and Jeb took a bat to the voter registration files and struck from the roles the elderly, blacks, Hispanics or any demographic likely to vote D instead of R. I always wondered how her conscience was still alive if it even existed. Her conscience looked emaciated like it was starving. Maybe it had an eating disorder and any meaty decision would disagree with her so it stuck its fingers down its dry conscience throat and regurgitated previous opinions sure to be safe from reproach (but still a slight gag). Her bulimic conscience might take comfort in the company of Roberts' anorexic conscience. His conscience fell ill after he witnessed all the voter suppression actions balloon after he rescinded the laws preventing them.
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    Re: Dystopia discussed

    Post by Ren's View on Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:15 pm

    The way I saw it was as a symptom of a society-wide malaise.  A society that had been fighting off an oligarchic reinfection on the order of a common cold, that began with the Presidency, with the help of a Congress, that put Sandra Day on the court, and then its illness becomes ever more extreme as judicial extremist versions topping her are appointed, leading to an illness that now seems irreversible, with the Democrats in many key ways more conservative than even those common cold Reaganites, especially in terms of placing economic values at the top of the nation's hierarchy of needs, while the Republicans have utterly lost their minds to a cancerous disease.  And so, I can see how these topics weave into a fabric: An Opportunistic Infection.

    I find it difficult to place blame on any one individual.  It just doesn't satisfy me.

    The presidential republic political system is weak on democracy from the get go.  The rise of the unitary executive was the first opportunistic infection back in the eighties.  A strong president is a weakness to a democracy.  Strong presidents can all too easily tip over into an authoritarian stew when things get dicy.  Couple that with the steady rise of corporate capitalism, helped by international trade agreements that outweigh local regulations, which also refuses to coexist with any democratic process, and you have altogether too many ways for oligarchic power to enforce itself.

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